Legendary oceanographer, marine biologist and explorer Dr Sylvia Earle talks to Mathilda D’Silva, founder and CEO of social enterprise Ocean Purpose Project, about the ocean as our life support system and how we must make it accessible and encourage connection to inspire its protection

Sitting across from Dr Sylvia Earle, known fondly as ‘Her Deepness’, I can’t help but feel both awe and kinship. She may not remember it, but this is the second time we have met. The first was a chance encounter at the Ismaili Centre, Lisbon—a surreal morning of having coffee and a tour of Prince Hussain Aga Khan’s huge photographic portraits of sea animals. “Mathilda!” exclaimed Dr Earle. “You remind me of this turtle we photographed who kept snapping and cuddling up to the prince.” I sheepishly smiled and replied, “Yes, that sounds like a Mathilda alright.” 

It is a beguiling experience to be close to such excellence. This is a woman who is as comfortable among princes and presidents as she is diving and walking on the seabed—in 1979 she achieved a Guinness World Record for the deepest untethered sea walk of 1,250 ft underwater. Having authored more than 200 publications, lectured in 80 countries, been awarded 27 honorary degrees, and led over 100 marine expeditions with more than 7,000 hours underwater, there is no doubt behind the respect and admiration Dr Earle commands and no question as to why the United Nations dubbed her Champion of the Earth. 

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Sylvia Earle with Barack Obama
Above As comfortable among princes and presidents as she is diving and walking the seabed: Sylvia Earle introduces former President Barack Obama to a newly discovered fish that was named in his honour in 2016 (Image: courtesy of Sylvia Earle)
Sylvia Earle with Barack Obama

It makes you wonder what moment in her childhood was the catalyst for her becoming the most globally recognised name in ocean conservation and the diving industry.

Earle’s story began with a wave that knocked her over as a child on the Jersey Shore, located in coastal New Jersey in the US, a moment that might have instilled fear but instead ignited a lifelong passion. "It was fun," she reminisces, her eyes lighting up. "And I’ve been diving back in ever since." 

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Above Earle’s lifelong passion for the ocean was ignited as a child (Image: courtesy of Sylvia Earle)
Sylvia Earle

It’s this spirit that makes Earle not only a pioneer but a force in marine conservation. She describes the ocean as a world full of creatures that have no counterpart on land, a living museum that tells the story of life on Earth. Her anecdotes remind me why I founded Ocean Purpose Project on a little strip of Pasir Ris Beach in Singapore—to defend this blue planet, not in the abstract, but in the immediate, tactile work that brings change.

Science, discovery—and politics

When Earle and I meet, it is just days after the US Presidential Election results have been announced and when conversation turns to climate policy Earle’s calm, unwavering voice carries the weight of both science and urgency. 

"Science should never be a matter of politics," she says, her tone almost exasperated. In light of proposals to downsize the US’s National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA, where between 1990 and 1992, Earle was chief scientist), she makes a compelling case for why public funding in climate science is essential. "It’s not about politics," she stresses. "It’s for the good of people. Knowledge from NOAA’s research isn’t a commodity—it’s a lifeline. I've been a witness to this time of extraordinary discovery and realise that the greatest era of discovery is truly just beginning.”

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Sylvia Earle (Photo: Michael Aw)
Above Earle has led over 100 marine expeditions with more than 7,000 hours underwater (Photo: Michael Aw)
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Above Earle is known for her marine algae research (Image: courtesy of Sylvia Earle)
Sylvia Earle (Photo: Michael Aw)
Sylvia Earle

Earle has never been afraid to use her decades of experience and research to speak out and demand change. A great example was when she called out Google Maps whose designers had forgotten to include the oceans. Earle cheekily suggested a rename—without the seas it was Google Dirt, not Google Earth. From there, months of new programming and Earle releasing her data would culminate in Google’s mapping of simulated oceans.

Lights, camera, action: the power of storytelling

When Earle speaks about the ocean, her words flow like a tide—powerful, urgent and unrelenting. But she doesn’t just rely on speeches or research papers; she channels her passion into films that move the heart before engaging the mind. “Knowledge alone is not enough. To really inspire change, you need to connect here,” she says, pointing to her chest.

Earle’s latest cinematic endeavour, Souls, is a film (with an accompanying memoir that was released in November) capturing the remarkable stories of six individuals whose lives and work are tied to the ocean, including Earle, underwater photographers Michael Aw, David Doubilet and Jennifer Hayes; and ichthyologists Richard Pyle and Brian Greene. It encapsulates the spiritual connection between humanity and the ocean, and is due to be released in April 2025.

“It’s about making people feel something,” explains Earle. “You can’t love what you don’t know, and you can’t protect what you don’t love.” She believes films hold a unique power to bridge the gap between cold data and human emotion, mobilising viewers into action. In a world enamoured with influencer reels and viral videos, her storytelling reminds us of what truly matters—the ocean’s health and our survival. After all, advocacy isn’t about hashtags or viral trends; it’s about creating a ripple effect that turns into a tide.

It’s about making people feel something. You can’t love what you don’t know, and you can’t protect what you don’t love.

- Dr Sylvia Earle -

Earle’s prolific body of work also includes books. From Sea Change: A Message of the Oceans (published in 1996) to The World is Blue: How Our Fate and the Ocean’s Are One (released in 2009), her writing distills decades of scientific exploration into narratives accessible to everyone. “A book allows you to take a deep dive,” she explains. “It stays with people in a way that soundbites never can.” Her books are not just collections of facts but manifestos for the planet, each page a rallying cry to save what’s left.

Earle doesn’t shy away from addressing the dark side of the blue economy—overfishing, pollution and unchecked greed masquerading as sustainability. “The ocean is not a commodity,” she says firmly. “It’s our life support system.” She challenges many to confront the hard truths about corporate greenwashing and the destructive industries hiding behind glossy ads. It’s the kind of unflinching honesty that I aspire to bring into my own advocacy, pushing for real change in Singapore’s coastal waters through citizen science.

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Above Sylvia Earle was in Singapore in November for Blue Water EduFest and the premiere of the documentary ‘2099: Power in Us’ (Image: courtesy of Sylvia Earle)
Sylvia Earle

Earle is in Singapore for Blue Water EduFest and the world premiere of 2099: Power in Us, a new documentary she narrates in which climate advocates journey to Antarctica in search of solutions to preserve a habitable planet for humanity. These events, which took place in November, are not just gatherings—they’re platforms. “These moments bring people together,” she says, “but what matters is what happens after the applause.” She describes how film screenings in particular often spark the best conversations—not in the auditorium, but in the hallways and lobbies where collaborations are born.

As she speaks about the impact of storytelling, Earle leaves me with this: “Art has the power to reach places data cannot. We have to use every tool we have—film, books, music, you name it—because the ocean needs all of us.”

A mother-daughter mission in the deep

Another tool for Earle’s wheelhouse is the Deep Hope submersible, which is a mother-daughter venture. Earle’s daughter, Liz Taylor, is also an ocean explorer and is president of the marine technology company DOER Marine that was set up by her mother in 1992. This brings Earle’s conservation efforts full circle. 

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Liz Taylor, Sylvia Earle’s daughter
Above Earle’s daughter, Liz Taylor, is also an ocean explorer and is president of DOER Marine, which was established by Earle in 1992 (Image: courtesy of Sylvia Earle)
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Sylvia Earle with Liz Taylor
Above Sylvia Earle (right) with her daughter, Liz Taylor, and her two grandchildren (Image: courtesy of Sylvia Earle)
Liz Taylor, Sylvia Earle’s daughter
Sylvia Earle with Liz Taylor

Designed to glide quietly through the ocean’s depths, these clear-bubble subs aim to offer a new way to observe marine life. “It’s like being a sea creature,” Earle says, her enthusiasm infectious. She sees these subs not just as research tools but as a way to make the ocean accessible to citizen scientists. “Imagine using this technology in regions like Singapore,” she muses, “to monitor marine biodiversity and discover non-extractive values of our waters.”

Earle believes the mapping of deep sea environments and presenting scientific discoveries found in the depths have the power to prevent overfishing and the depletion of ocean resources.  

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Honu submersible custom-designed and built by DOER Marine and Sylvia Earle
Above Sylvia Earle land DOER Marine have custom-designed and built Honu submersibles to provide access to the ocean’s depths (Image: courtesy of Sylvia Earle)
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Above Sylvia Earle in a manned submersible (Image: courtesy of Sylvia Earle)
Honu submersible custom-designed and built by DOER Marine and Sylvia Earle
Sylvia Earle

“To go quietly, turn off the lights and just witness where most of life on Earth exists in the dark, except for all these twinkling bioluminescent lights, the great honour to hear the natural sounds in the sea. Some of them are subtle, others are big and noisy. The beautiful wail of whales. Some fish really are, as their name might suggest, grunts. Groupers make a big, deep sound, and there are some that make sounds like electronic music,” she says.

Certainly if the mass public sees and hears underwater life in such a unique and wondrous way, the world, especially Asia, could see ocean creatures less as seafood and more as wildlife.

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Mathilda D’Silva with Sylvia Earle
Above Mathilda D’Silva with Sylvia Earle (Photo: Chong Seow Wei)
Mathilda D’Silva with Sylvia Earle

As the granddaughter of a fisherman myself, I know how difficult this idea is for people in Asia, especially for Singaporeans whose first question during an inter-tidal walk or seaweed visit to me is usually “can eat or not?” But the viewpoint of Earle fuels optimism through a lingering sense of urgency, a reminder that we’re fighting against time. As she puts it, "Our existence depends on the ocean." Her parting words echo in my mind: "We have the knowledge to change our habits, but we must act before it's too late."

Earle’s work reminds me why I started Ocean Purpose Project—not to be an influencer, but to be a solutionist. Our shared grief for the damaged seas is real, but so is our hope. From Pasir Ris to the global stage, my mission feels even more urgent. We are all, as Earle says, stewards of this blue world. So, here’s to action—real action—that transcends words, ads and empty promises. The ocean is life. Let’s treat it that way.

Thank you, Her Deepness, for showing us how.


Dr Sylvia Earle was interviewed by Gen.T Leader of Tomorrow Mathilda D’Silva, who is founder and CEO of Ocean Purpose Project, a social enterprise dedicated to driving ocean conservation and plastic pollution prevention using a mix of deep technology and nature-based solutions.

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